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Latest News February 2006

Extract of Minutes: - Epsom Methodist Church Council held on 2nd February 2006

Church Redevelopment –

Rev. David Winwood, (Chairman) outlined the current position with the scheme.

Originally, Church Council had agreed to fund the scheme in two parts in order that the Scout organisation could make applications to Lottery and other organisations giving money to youth based work. Unfortunately, the reality is that there have been no positive responses to these applications. This does not mean to say that monies will never be forthcoming from these sources but merely that the donation of capital funds to youth projects in the South East especially is not the flavour at the moment. Further applications will be made at a later date but the issues still remains of how to fund the building of the Scouts HQ/Youth Hall. The Scouts will be launching a public appeal in the Ashley Centre on Feb. 18th 2006.

The Scheme was sent for approval by the Methodist Property office and was submitted as an integrated package i.e. main Church and Youth Hall. In subsequent meetings with representatives of the Methodist Property Office it has been determined that whilst approval for the Church Development is likely, unfortunately they cannot support the building of the Youth Hall at this stage until funding is in place for that part of the scheme.

At Design team meetings all options have been discussed including doing nothing or not doing some items in the Church development that might free up monies to fund the Youth Hall, but even drastic reduction to the front development would not provide adequate funding. Again no solution can be found that will enable us to proceed with the scheme as a whole. The Design team, having exhausted all avenues and after consultation with the Finance Committee came to the meeting with the following proposal in the name of the two committees, which was debated at some length.

Before voting on the proposals, Richard Chandra-Rajan presented details of the current redevelopment finances and the business plan to fund the proposal. (simplified chart below)

This proposal was put to Church Council, and reads:-

The Church Council agrees now to move forward with the Church development as follows:-

  • *      To accept the advice of the Property Division to proceed initially with the “front development” part of the scheme.

  • *      As part of this work, to provide to the rear of the site, the necessary services to enable the subsequent construction of the youth hall.

  • *      To authorise the Design Team and Finance Committee to arrange to invite tenders on this basis and, assuming the quoted price to be in keeping with the current estimate of cost, to place a contract accordingly as soon as practicable.

  • *      To support the Scout appeals in seeking to improve the availability of funds so as to be in a position to invite tenders for, and proceed with, construction of the Youth Hall with the least possible delay and preferably within the next twelve months.

This proposal was voted on and accepted unanimously by Church Council.

A further proposal was also put to Church Council. As, in effect, there are two charities involved, it is necessary for the Scouts to formally ‘lease’ the land for the Scout Hall HQ from the Church in order to comply with requirements of funding bodies. Therefore the proposal that Church Council gives approval to proceed towards leasing the land for a Scout Hall HQ under the guidance of the Methodist Property office and Legal Department was carried, again unanimously.

Building Together @ EMC

Cost

 £

QS Budget Estimate 4 Jan 2006

1,302,000

Fees in the process of being paid

54,900

Additional cost without Section "C"

100,000

Allowance for inflation from June 05

63,680

Interest on Chapel Aid Loan

4,060

          Expected Cost

1,524,640

 

Funding

Deposits as at 31 Dec 2005

302,700

Outstanding Pledges

88,000

Tax reclaim

13,000

Rent

21,000

Sale of Flats

400,000

District Advance Fund (grant)

50,000

 

          Reasonably secure

874,700

 

Circuit Advance Fund

300,000

Rank

30,000

CAPF

16,000

London Committee

10,000

Fund for Property

4,000

 

          Anticipated Grants

360,000

 

Future fundraising events

75,000

New Pledges & Donations

190,000

   "       "               "       Tax reclaim

24,940

 

          Further Local Effort

289,940

 

Total Funding

1,524,640

 

Furnishing & Fittings

40,000

Funded by Gifts & Memorials

-40,000

MISSION & REDEVELOPMENT February 2006 Special Newsletter

The Church Council has now, by unanimous vote, given full authority for the building development project to go ahead for tenders to be sought and for contracts to be placed, in the expectation that builders will be on site by September. It is now twelve months since we circulated a sixteen page leaflet about the financial vulnerability of the church and about the building project. Since then, the general finances of the church have reached a more stable position and we have tried to keep you informed of progress with the development project through this web site. Nevertheless, it is time to bring you right up to date (14 February 2006) with the details of the agreement made by the Church Council and the circumstances which have led us to the present position.

 

On 9th October 2004 the latest development project was launched with the support of an open Church Meeting. As different kinds of building developments have been under discussion for about twenty two years, and one scheme after another has come to nothing, sixteen months is a comparatively short time, but the impact of inflation on the estimated costs, and the changes in requirements by certain funding bodies, leave us with great disappointment that this further period of time, and therefore considerable amount of money, has been unavoidably lost.

 

Integrated Scheme

The Church Meeting gave support to an integrated scheme, which brought the Scout HQ back into view, as it had to be deferred in the previous project. The Church Council then agreed to the scheme being funded in two parts, and permission was given to the Scouts to apply to funding agencies which would be able to make grants directly to a youth organisation, but not to the church. The Scouts were also then free to launch an appeal among Scout families and supporters. These decisions were made with positive expectation, based on sound experience but, in the last two years, grant making bodies have changed their major focus from supporting building developments that would mark the new millennium to new ventures among young people and particularly among the disadvantaged, but not to building programmes.

 

The Scouts are now sending out regular updates on fund-raising for the HQ for the year. They are organising events, approaching families and supporters and will be launching a public appeal in the Ashley Centre on the 18th February 2006, but sadly this has not yet secured enough funding to enable that part of the project to proceed immediately. The Connexional Property Officers of the Methodist Church, in Manchester, have given permission for us to go ahead with the rest of the scheme but , at this stage, not to proceed with the Scout HQ, until the funding is secure.

 

Warnings and a Way Forward

The Connexional decision was a deep disappointment to us all, especially as our intention was to build the Scout HQ first, at the back of the building. This would then have provided an additional facility for use when the building work moves to the front. Despite this decision, there is strong determination within the church and among the Scouts to ensure that the Scout HQ will be built, hopefully on a second phase of development immediately following the first.

 

Before accepting this outcome as inevitable, the Development Group explored every other possible way, even sacrificially, of cutting out the entrance and welcome area, by not renewing the toilets or offices, by foregoing the new bookshop or baptistry, to release funds which would enable the youth hall to be included in the first phase, but there was no way of securing sufficient funds to make that possible.

 

The warning came from the Connexional staff, as they know from experience, that a year’s delay for the whole scheme would be likely to add inflation of around another quarter of a million pounds to the cost! In the light of these matters the Development Group discussed with the architect and quantity surveyor ways of proceeding with the development from the front of the building ensuring that:-

The land which was purchased to enable a larger Scout HQ to be built would be secured for that purpose and new boundaries drawn.

The drainage, electricity, water supplies and some of the out works, which would be necessary for the Scout hall, would be included in the first phase. This would make it possible for the building work to continue directly into the second phase, to build the Scout HQ, when the necessary funding and permission are in place.

 

Funding Package

The additional work which will be moved into the first phase will increase the costs of the project by about £100,000.

Inflation over the past sixteen months has added almost £350,000.

Connexional grants from the Methodist Church have been reduced, by decision of the Conference, for all building projects, by £40,000.

On the positive side we have managed to secure a grant, which was not in the original funding package, for £50,000 from our Methodist District.

We are applying for another extra grant of £300,000 from the Circuit. If that falls into place we will be back where we expected to be, with £200,000 to raise, plus £100,000 which has now come into this part of the project from the Scout HQ costs.

(The services required for the Scout HQ includes new drainage and soak away system, water supply to new points, gas and electricity , arrangements for the heating system , and access to the rear section, which at the second stage will be completed as a car park but will be made available in the first stage for the Scouts to provide some hard core as a base to park the scout vehicles at the rear as there will be a loss of parking space at the front of the building. It will be necessary for the four existing garages used by the Nursery, Guides and Equipment storage to be removed.)

Fund-raising at the current level, over the next five years, will add another £75,000, leaving £190,000 for us to find through extra fund-raising efforts and personal generosity, over a period of five years.

The Development Group and Finance Committee met together to thoroughly examine the position, and came to the conclusion that, accepting that there are final decisions to be made about some grants and that there is a considerable challenge facing us over the next five years, the financial basis of the project was sufficiently sound for us to go ahead, with the anticipated costs being at £1,524,640.

The Church Council had a long debate to ensure that every important aspect of the present position has been explored and understood, and then unanimously accepted the joint proposal from the Development Group and Finance Committee.

The decision was reached in a spirit of realism and yet of faithful trust in God.

 

Perspective & Participation

A project of this size is bound to loom large over the next few years, but it must not loom larger than God’s calling to mission and outreach, of which the building development is only one part. We need the prayers, encouragement, patience and generosity of every person to get us through to a positive and hopeful outcome. Everyone is invited to contribute, and to help raise the funds, but we do not want to be ’banging on’ about money. If everyone makes a small effort we will succeed, without distorting the church’s life of spirit.

If you would like a tube of Smarties to fill with ‘unwanted’ two pound coins, I will gladly give you one!

If you organise a coffee morning for your neighbours, you could tell them what we are doing and why and give them an opportunity to offer support.

Michael Whelton will gladly give you a fiver if you will use it, like the talents in the Bible, to make more money by baking cakes, making sweets, doing some knitting etc. and then selling them for the fund.

Support the Book Fair on the 17th & 18th February 2006.

Bring your friends to the Jazz Night on the 4th March 2006.

Spread the word about the Toy Fair on the 6th May 2006.

All these things will rise a little more for the fund.

 

If you have some savings and are willing to offer an interest free loan of five, ten or twenty thousand pounds or so, even for a limited time, that may help the cash flow at just the time it is most needed.

Then e-mail Richard Chandra-Rajan, the Development Treasurer via...............

Tell people about the appeal for the Scout HQ and encourage them to make a donation.

 

Be thou my vision

I hope this is not information overload, because it seems important that everyone should be fully in the picture. When the building work begins we may find ourselves a little cramped on occasions, and we will lose the car park throughout, but we are still intending to continue with our full programme as far as possible.

Thank you for the vision, generosity, patience, hard work and for the pain and disappointment that has brought us to this point.

Thank you for your loyalty to the fellowship of the church and your share in its life and mission. Thank you for every prayer, every gift and every bit of work that has enabled us to come this far with the building development.

Thank you for the spirit of diversity and yet of unity within our Christian community.

 

Thank you for the joy and fulfilment that I’m finding in sharing in ministry with you at EMC.

If you are among those who have not been at one with the church’s hopes for the this development, then please accept my prayers and gratitude for continuing to belong to our church, as I realise that at times that must be hard.

Please pray for continued harmony in the family of the church, for God’s guidance and blessing and for this project to be part of the means by which we can engage in God’s mission and build up the Christian community at EMC. That community is part of his gift to us and part of his gift through witness and service to the community of Epsom.

 

“If the Lord does not build the house, the work of the builders will be useless.”

(Psalm 127 v.1)

As ever David Winwood
 

 


 

This shows a view from Ashley Road of the proposed redevelopment of the Church

 

below comments/notes/ past newsletter kept for reference only


                  2005

Well I never!

After twenty one years of discussion about various possible building developments, the whole idea seems to belong to 'never, never land' - i.e. fantasy, make-believe, an imaginary ideal that will never come to pass! When people talk of paying on the 'never never' they convey the idea that there will not be enough money to pay for it! Maybe that thought has crossed your mind over the church development. Never-ending consultations and disappointments over many years could easily lead us to believe that twenty one years could soon stretch to twenty five or thirty.

Nevertheless - it is about to happen!

An application for planning approval for changes to the scheme which was approved in 2004 is before the Town Council now. The papers are being prepared for Connexional approval by the Methodist Church. Building regulation drawings and final specifications are in hand with the architect. We are anticipating that tenders will be sought by June 2006 and that contractors will be on site by August or September. The build­ing programme will probably take about twelve months to complete and we will be returning to the full use of the buildings in the autumn of 2007. I refer to 'full use' because we are hoping to retain some parts of the building for our use throughout the development programme. It will be good if that's possible, but it will not be an easy period. It will require a great deal of flexibility and understanding from the whole church familyy, and the car park is likely to be out of action throughout.

A reminder of the changes

There will be a central main entrance to unite the whole building, leading into a welcome area. The reception desk, on your right, will be visible as you enter and the office area will be renewed including a counselling room between the office and the Minister's room. The coffee area will be on your left as you enter and visible from the front of the building: There will be new and improved toilets including provision for disabled people and baby changing facilities. The nursery will also have new toilets and improved storage facilities. The worship area will be enlarged to make room for the uniformed organisations, parents and the congregation on parade Sundays. It will be possible for the English and Chinese speaking congregations all to worship together on special occasions, and there will be suitable space for conferences or concerts.

The worship area extensions will be capable of being used as two large rooms. The chancel will remain within the worship area as a place for prayer. A new and larger scout hall, including an additional meeting room, toilets and kitchen facilities will be built, with rear access and a storage room. There will also be additional land for Scout use and additional parking space on the right of the building. The Christian bookshop will be re-located to the front of the building.

Funding

We are approaching the whole enterprise as one project, but we are raisingthe funds in two parts. Funding the youth hall separately will allow grants to be applied for which can only be made available to youth organisations and not to the church. It will also make possible a drive for fund-raising among the Scout families and their contacts, and such monies will be dedicated to the youth hall.

The Church Council has agreed to the sale of 13 Ashley Road, as this will be necessary to cope with the funding required. We will keep the land behind the house however; as it was purchased by the church for the much needed larger youth hall for the Scouts, and to provide parking facilities. The Scouts are now seeking grants and organising fund raising to cover the remainder of the costs for the hall. This is enormously challenging for the Scouts, as it is for the whole church. The first edition of the 'New HQ Newsletter' gives details of the launch of the Scout appeal, so that everyone is fully informed.

Thanks to the loyalty and dedication of those who have pledged gifts towards the building fund. Over the next few years, we are able to en­visage the possibility of just being able to find the money needed to re­new our church buildings for twenty first century worship and mission but it will be hard work. Combining the funds which are now pledged, money from the sale of 13 Ashley Road, the outcome of applications that will be made to Advance Funds and further fundraising can now
make this scheme viable.

Even though the figures will eventually add up, it is most likely that we will need some help with the cash flow to enable the building to be completed whilst the pledges will still be coming in over a few years beyond completion. One member has offered an interest free loan of £100,000 to bridge that gap, if it should be needed. Is there any possi­bility that you could do the same, or offer a smaller amount, (or at a low level of interest)? It would help us to know, and greatly help the church if we can avoid having to seek commercial loans.

Fund raising

There are some wonderful efforts through the year which raise funds for the building development programme. Those who work hard for the book fair, the autumn festival and various garden parties are to be thanked and congratulated. There are other smaller, but equally valuable, efforts being made and we are equally grateful. But now we need everyone to do something! The more we are involved at this stage, the more we will have a sense of being responsible for our new buildings. The more people we can include in raising funds, the quicker we will clear the debt.

Would you be willing to help organise a monthly car boot sale in the car park on Saturday morning? Will a few extra people help out with re­freshments at Rendezvous on those days? Could you make plans to hold a coffee morning at home and invite neighbours and friends to con­tribute towards rebuilding for the church and community?

Everyone can do that!

Care and Share members have each received a £5 note, to use in some way to make a little more. They are using their creative imaginations to find ways to be a good steward! Would you like a large tube of Smarties as a gift from the Minister? Then when you have eaten them all you can save some of your £2 coins and bring the tube back when it is full. We are planning to organise a Jazz concert in the New Year to raise funds. Do you have any other ideas which could be put into practice in the next few months?

Housekeeping

Perhaps you are asking, at this point, 'How can we fund a building project when we have had to make extra appeals to cope with the annual housekeeping?' That's a good question, as we cannot adequately sup­port the work of the whole church family by emergency appeals each year. You should know that a number of moves have been made to­wards solving this problem. First we will continue to challenge each other to review our giving from time to time, as this is part of ourChristian discipleship. I may have faithfully kept my pledge of £5 per week for seven or eight years, without realising that the equivalent amount today would now be £10!  So each of us needs to examine our regular giving to ensure that inflation is not reducing it, and seek to increase our Christian commitment in this way, if we can.

All of the groups using the building are benefiting from lighting, heating and caretaking. So the groups have been asked to budget more realistically to cover the costs of the lighting, heating and caretaking which they use. The level of contributions from the groups has been the biggest area of shortfall in the church's finances in recent years. Members of the groups have not been aware. They have understood that their organisation gives a 'donation to the church', without realising, that that is, in fact, a small contribution towards the costs that they are using up for the benefit of the group. When that happens, it leaves the church with a big gap to bridge. The groups are all responding conscientiously and seeking to prepare budgets to take realistic account of the money they are spending, and for this we are gladly grateful.

Never say never

I hope you are becoming convinced that our vision is nearer reality. What has sometimes looked like never, God is transforming into now.

At the time of Jesus the Jewish people believed that the best things God had promised were remote and far ahead, like salvation, eternal life, resurrection, and the kingdom of heaven. They believed that God would bring these things to pass at the end of time. However, Jesus said-

'The kingdom of heaven is among you here and now.'

'Those who believe in me have eternal life now.'

'I am the resurrection and the life, now.5

'Today salvation has come to your house.'

Jesus brought the future into the present and he called his followers to turn visions into reality. He enabled people to live in God's kingdom now, to receive God's salvation now, to accept that heaven is here on earth, and to live within life eternal.

For us, I believe God is bringing the 'never never' ideas of church development from being a future possibility into a present reality. Part of our calling is to reshape the life and mission of our church now, to make a new start in renewed buildings, renewed worship, mission, wit­ness and service. I cannot prove it to you, because it still involves a great deal of faith and a goodwill of God's people.  But if there's goodwill in your heart, and if you will allow God's spirit to transform that into reality, then you will be aware that we are well on the way and that your prayerful giving and on-going encouragement will be part of the transformation.

I look forward to the day, in the autumn 2007 when we pack the new church for a service of dedication and thanksgiving.

It will be a day of joyful celebration and as far as my ministry and church developments are concerned, I shall say -

Never again!

Blessings!

David


 


I have come to this church with the hope and expectation that we will work together to strengthen and renew the faith of our Christian community, to develop and renew the building, so that the church may be equipped for its worship and mission in this new century; as we find ourselves in a world which has changed enormously since our building first came into being.  I have also come with the hope that, when the building project is complete, we will be able to concentrate on new developments in outreach and service and in mission and evangelism to nourish the life of the church so that its work is sustained in the years ahead; and to avoid the decline which now seems to be widely accepted as the norm for many churches in the twenty first century.

 

After twenty years of our church being overshadowed by ‘building development possibilities’, I think we will not be able to move ahead in confidence and commitment until we have jumped that hurdle and given our church buildings a new look and a new shape.  And that I believe we can do.

Building Developments

The proposed building developments will provide —

A visible main entrance to unite the whole building

A welcome area with reception personnel available

Renew the Ministers’ office and provide a counselling room, these will be adjacent to the welcome area on the right

Coffee area immediately accessible on the left, visible from the front of the building

New and improved toilets including provision for disabled people and baby changing facilities

New toilets and improved storage for the Nursery

An enlarged worship area to make room for the uniformed organisations and parents on parade Sundays, for the English and Chinese speaking congregations to worship together on special occasions, and to provide a suitable space for conferences and concerts

A new communion area, so that about thirty people will be able to kneel all round for Holy Communion, and which can also be used as a stage area for choirs, orchestras or drama

The worship area extensions will be capable of being used as two large additional rooms for work with the toddlers, uniformed organisations, the Chinese congregation, for mid-week meetings, or available for community use

We will retain the chancel within the worship area as an area for prayer, for additional seating on special occasions, or to use when the worship area is arranged in its present formation

A new and larger scout hall, including an additional meeting room, toilets and kitchen facilities, as well as a rear access and storage room

Additional land for scout storage units and for scout activities

Additional parking space on the right hand side of the building to compensate for some loss of space at the front

Provision for relocating the Christian Bookshop to the front of the building

 

Estimated costs for the building development

We have agreed to stay within the limits of £1.2m for the development at the front of the church.  That is a big enough challenge in itself.  The new scout hall at the rear has been costed at something in the region of £500,000, and the scouts have undertaken to raise that money, largely through applications for various grants from National and European sources.

 

The £1.2m could possibly be raised in the following way —

 

Money already pledged and grants anticipated

£400,000

The possible sale of the two flats

£400,000

Application to a special fund

£200,000

New pledges and fundraising over 5 years

£200,000

Total

£1.2m

 


 Yours David Winwood

 

 

 

 


 


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